Therefore, the Adnanites are descendants of Abraham. And perhaps, using the knowledge, culture, and technology from the Aad, they established a new society. As for objection number one, as far as my research has shown, the only reason that the carved-out structures are considered tombs is due to various rectangular carved out niches inside them where the dead bodies were to be placed. The caliphate also allowed the migration of Arab tribes to Egypt. what enemy, ever so warlike and powerful, will venture to invade my land, or besiege me in my strong hold? [19], To the Thamd, We sent their brother, li. The fact that these structures are still around today, after nearly 4000 years is a testament to their quality and design. That they were better than you in building these fallen down relics 2. The crafts became abundant and firmly rooted. The Quran states regarding them: , And to the Thamud [We sent] their brother Salih. After the given time was over, an earthquake shook the land violently and destroyed the people of Thamud in one cry. [Prophet], it is your Lord who is the Strong, the Mighty One. Among such nations were the 'Ad and the Thamud, the Amalekites and the Himyar after them, the Tubbas, and the other South Arabian rulers (Adhwa). of 'Ad and Thamud by name. [21], A hadith tradition preserved in the a al-Bukhr collection narrates that the Islamic prophet Muhammad called Hegra "the land of Thamud" and did not allow his troops to drink from its wells or to use its water, and to never enter its ruins "unless weeping, lest occur to you what happened to them. According to the Islamic tradition, the Thamd were warned by the prophet li to worship Allh, but the Thamd stubbornly refused and as a result were anni. Thus, from the aforementioned verses we have gleaned the following: 1. In Umayya's account, there is no Salih. Similarly, much later, Thamud were wiped out and their remains were taken over by Midianites of which we see the pictures and they constructed over them as per their methods. They were scientists and technicians and craftsmen, so they wanted conclusive proof. 5. The wordings themselves state so and all the tafaseer also state this. I do understand why most Christians are unaware of the fine details interspersed within the ponderous and drawn-out book. The people led wealthy excessive lives, built grand buildings, both on the plains, and carved into the hills. the nation of Shuayb (as) is mentioned (78-79). Had the Prophet () thought that the rock carved structures in al-Hijr were those of Thamd, he would have pointed them out. They conquered other nations and treated them harshly. Some Muslims have mistakenly equated sites such as these with the first Thamud of the Quran, but it is believed by archaeologists that a different group of people called the Nabataeans, in fact, built some of these sites. I guess it can be said that the Nabataeans can be considered one of the nations succeeding the people of Thamud. Heres how Allah describes their punishment. The Arabs then could see Thamud dwellings but we today cannot. Hud tried to reason with his people by reminding them of the many favors Allah had given them. [23] The ninth-century Muslim scholar Ibn Sad believed that the Thamud were the Nabateans. [26] The name is a misnomer from the nineteenth century, when such texts were discovered in areas associated with the Thamud in the Islamic tradition. By declining the noun Thamud or not, it means the region or the tribe. The Nabatean inscriptions are the ancient equivalent of graffiti, which humans even today have a predilection for. Like some of the tombs have window openings and some of the niches are not much more wide than a hand, which hardly can serve as a resting place for a human body. However, they worshiped other deities along with Allah. As menitoned earlier, the Aad were a strong, brutish, and conquering people. Khawiya seems to mean destroyed/overturned but the term could possibly mean ruined too. http://saudi-archaeology.com/sites/madain-saleh/. Have not invested any considerable time investigating the actual archeological claims. But as well see below, archaeological and literary records place them firmly in Northern Arabia/Jordan, well after the death of Jesus (33 AD). : | _ books. It becomes rather implausible that a people who a had a law against building a house, would then start constructing breathtakingly massive structures from the rocks of the mountains themselves. But I digress. And Ad and Thamud-it must be clear to you from their dwelling places! The following commentary on the verses from Obadiah, found in biblestudytools.com, is rather revealing. There are countless artists, pundits, and celebrities who mock Allah, His Messenger (pbuh), and Islam. Some have shelves carved into the rock; one has a large room, possibly big enough to house a council. We find ruins of so many past civilisations such as Indus Valley (Mohenjodaro, Harappa), Sodom, and so on. But as a sign of their wickedness, they killed her. The account presented in Surah an-Naml also mentions nine evil people of Thamud who are immediately responsible for God's punishment of their people[Quran27:4851] in a narrative reminiscent of Jewish descriptions of the demise of Sodom. Assalam alikum so is 89:9 present tense or past tense the altheana jabbu al sakrah bilwadi bit and you are saying that the thamud dwellings have gone destroyed after the prophets time, And Is madain al saleh wadi alQura or is wadi alqura some where else, And do you think there houses were destroyed before or after ibn kathir and could the land of thamud be petra ir yemon because there is a town called thamud in yemon, And does 27:52 mean there dwellings were destroyed or empty and could 89:9 mean there dwellings just of been caves in the prophets the outside gone fallen if you know what I mean and can. The people of Noah, when they denied the Messengers, We drowned them and made them a sign for people We have prepared for wrongdoers a painful punishment and Ad, Thamud, the companions of the well, and many generations between them. They are of Arab origin, but now of mixed blood mostly with Nilo-Saharans and Nubians. And We gave them Our signs, but from them they were turning away. Ptolemy (d. 168 AD), describes a people called Oaditai8, bordered by Aramaeans to the north, and Thamud to the south, close to what is today called Wadi Ramm. But the Thamud cut its hamstring or otherwise wounded it. Later still, we find them mentioned by Ptolemy (d. 168AD), in his Geography.6. But before we get to that, lets analyze their responses. Unfortunately, both nations rejected their prophets. [7][8] In a somewhat muddled passage, Pliny the Elder, a Roman historian of the first century CE, appears to locate the Thamd at the unidentified inland town of "Baclanaza". Hence, they had become very rich. Do not enter the dwellings of those who wronged themselves unless you are weeping, lest you be afflicted with the likes of what afflicted them. If anyone has evidence of at least one dead body having been found in the recesses, Im open to change my mind. Four generations is only about eighty years and its unlikely, in my humble opinion, that they were able to establish a new socieity, invent a new religion, and forget all about their ancestors the Aad in such a short time. Thamd, in ancient Arabia, tribe or group of tribes known to be extant from the 8th century bce to the 5th century ce. Salamun alaikum, Edomites, Lihyanites and Nabateans inherited this skill? Thus, we can say that perhaps this ones were the Nabataeans. And when they conqured people, they did so in a harsh, brutal, and ruthless manner. Seeking blessings from relics of the righteous? Thus, at the end, the people of al-Hijr are mentioned. [27], This article is about the ancient Arabian tribe. [24] The major migration to the region by Arab tribes was in the 11th century when the tribes of Banu Hilal and Banu Sulaym, along with others, were sent by the Fatimids to defeat a Berber rebellion and then settle in the Maghreb. Al-ijr, Saudi Arabia: ancient Thamd house, This article was most recently revised and updated by. The Thamd were known from contemporary sources to have occupied parts of the Hejaz region, and later Islamic tradition holds that they settled on the slopes of Mount Athlab. Badawi writes: [li] and his followers left the doomed area just before Gods punishment befell them. And indeed (their destruction) is clearly apparent to you from their (ruined) dwellings. (29:38) If they turn away, then say, I warn you of a lightning-bolt like the lightning-bolt of Ad and of Thamud. MALIK'S MUWATTA, BOOK 9: Shortening the Prayer || __ - . What the visitor sees there today are hewn hills; no mansions remain on the plain. A similar narrative can be found in Jeremiah 49:16 Now are they fully destroyed now over the 1400 years or are mixed with the newer nabataens, True but many people say when it says travel the land it is normally speaking about ad and thamud because they are the closest cant atharan mean just marks not marks left behind like 30:50 when it says effects it doesnt mean left behind effects because allah would mean left behind so what can atharan thanks for replying back all the time, Because even if these verses are saying thamud and AD it is saying there better than there houses but how can they if they were in advance state of decay because we cant see ad houses left so they had to be in advance stat of decay so if they were how could they be better then there houses because these verse would be more talking about ad more than thamud any hence in the verse they were mightier because ad called them selfs mightier, Arabic language has been heavily borrowed from by the Urdu language spoken widely in Pakistan and India. The blast struck the evildoers and they lay dead in their homes, as though they had never lived and flourished there. It is argued that the Quran and the Prophet () made an error in history and facts[1]. Answer (1 of 7): Yes They were called the people of Aad and they were ancient arabs. Suppose if Nuh ( ) came 40,000 years ago or even 100,000 years ago and the few hundred or a few thousand people were destroyed by the flood, then it would not be difficult to believe that human population reached in millions, further subdividing into nations, communities, and tribes, after thousands of years. The Quran and Sunnah do not identify any specific existing ruins as belonging to the first ancient tribe of Thamud, although some Muslim historians and popular folklore have done so. Having similar names doesnt mean much 5. So they used to carve and not they still carve. He sent Prophet Hud (AS) to the Aad, and Prophet Salih (AS) to the Thamud. The ruins were identified by the Prophet (s) as belonging to those who wronged themselves, without ascribing them to the very first tribe of Thamud. Its like me living in a house, then someone tears it down and then builds another house and says Abdullah used to live in that house while the fact is that I did not. If we say Allah sent Nabateans a Messenger, then we would have to say that Allah sent them a Messenger WAY back (since there were no Prophets or Messengers between Isa and Muhammad (sall Allahu alayhim wa sallam) and only destroy them hundreds of years later. They are the idumeans( Edomites), Prophet Abraham pbuh was a Chaldean who had, People of uz autocorrect sucks sometimes, The quran pretty unambiguously says that the people of Nuh were a globalised civilization, so your timing seems a bit off, Your email address will not be published. We have no firm textual evidence as to where they went, but their pattern of rock carving survived for millennia among their successors in the area such as the Nabateans, the Dedanites, the Lihyanites who supplanted the Dedanites in Dedan in the last century BCE and 1st century CE and others. The Quran tells us that the people of Ad started to build altars on the high places, and even strongholds in the mountains. _ Story of Aad _tafseer. The most striking thing about the Thamud was the huge buildings and structures they built into the sides of mountains. Or just left relics in land 6. The general consensus among 14th-century Arab genealogists is that Arabs are of three kinds: The Hawazin tribe and the Quraysh tribe are considered Adnani Arabs. The Qurn mentions the Thamd as examples of the transitoriness of worldly power. But it was hamstrung and eventually killed by nine people of Thamud, who then attempted but failed to kill Salih himself. Just leave her alone. 63-65. I am also writing an text on this that I inshaAllah will put up online. The Edomites were proud of their wealth and riches, which they had by robberies amassed together; and of their military skill and courage, and of their friends and allies; and especially of their fortresses and fastnesses, both natural and artificial; and therefore thought themselves secure, and that no enemy could come at them to hurt them, and this deceived them: thou that dwellest in the clefts of the rock; They are mentioned in the Quran as examples of civilizations that Allah had destroyed because of their sins and as signs of the fleeting nature of the worldly power. 13. The tribe refused to heed him, saying that Salih was merely a mortal, and demanded a sign from God. Finally, we should understand that Allah has no problem replacing one people with another. It is generic for multitude of civilizations Khurusani Arabs were mainly contingent from Nejdi tribes such as Banu Tamim. I dont know and this is a good aspect of the Quran; it does not go into such things and instead instructs us to focus on the message and not the nitty gritty. They were a little more inquisitive (at least at first). Also you said 89:9 means a valley is not Madain al saleh a vally or is it not Marcus Aurelius Anthoninus and Lucius Aurelius Verus, who are the conquerors of the Armenians. Heavy contact with Romans resulted in us having a pretty decent record of its territories and people. It is possible that Edomites and or Thamud did carve out structures in the region, Nabateans, who came later, were inspired at some point during their history by the structures and proceeded to make a few of their own. What are the Sunnahs and etiquettes that we should >>> , - ?____ Fatwa . However, not all of them were destroyed; Salih and hisfollowers continued to live on. [28] A large Arab migration to Mesopotamia followed the Muslim conquest of Mesopotamia in 634, which saw an increase in the culture and ideals of the Bedouins in the region. 3. 15. It is very conceivable that those individuals who established this society became the pillars of the nation and their descendents took advantage of that and maintained a stranglehold on the wealth of the nation. 6. Here you can read various translations of verse 38. The Quran mentions the Thamud as an example of an ancient polytheistic people who were destroyed by God for their sins. Summary: The cravings that Quran says were done by Thamud were in Wad l-Qura. These Thamud built gigantic castles, hundreds of feet high, and they literally carved them right into the sides of mountains. 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A little later, Pliny, the Elder (d. 79 AD), a Roman historian, while writing hisNatural History,mentions theThamudaei5 a people dominant in Hegra, adjoining the Nabataeans. Then bring us what you promise us if you are among the truthful.Chapter 7, Verse 70, It is all the same to us if you advise us are not from among the advisors. While certain online Christian communities are abuzz with elation and glee, some Muslims are faced with difficulties in formulating a proper response to the latest Christian accusation. Dont ever think youre indespensible. So Ad lives in a mountainous country with lush valleys; and they made altars on the mountains. See the video here (arabic): https://youtu.be/yjRjkjQ-VEA, Me however I lean towards that Madain Saleh is not the place for the Quranic Thamud like Dr Thiaeb (linguist of ancient arabic and archeologist) has been repeatedly saying at least since 1995, because among other reasons that Madain Saleh lacks all the marks of Gods wrath, the earth quake levelling Thamud etc. After the destruction of Ad, Thamud succeeded them in power and grandeur. But despite all of this advice, the Aad rejected their brother Hud. [24] Whether the poem is genuinely by Umayya or is a post-Islamic creation is a matter of debate. God chose the prophet Salih to warn the polytheistic Thamud that they should worship the One God. Tribes originating in the Arabian Peninsula. JazakAllah, Thats fine I know that is just the way some people talk I talk to the point because Im using a mobile so I have to keep as short as possible my problem with the verse was normally when it says travel the land or as such its talking about nations close and the nations close to the Arabs were ad and thamud so some say that this verse is saying the quran thinks these buildings were built by thamud but we know they were built by the nabtions not thamud but we know the quran is not wrong so how do we explain that verse jazzakkallah because it makes it sound like that is this verse speaking in the present tense or past like tilka arabic and lam arabic jazzakkallah thanks for the help, Its like the same problem with 40:21 40:82 it sounds like thamud and pointing to these tombs etc but we know it cant be so how do we explain this as well jazzakkallah, And 27:52 because people say this sounds like it as well the kawatan arabic means empty so it sounds like it saying these tombs as well but it is mainly 28:58 I have the problem with jazzakkallah. As I mentioned in our discussion on your post regarding Gog and Magog, I was very interested to read your reply to the missionary accusation regarding Thamud, because the argument seems to be rather recent and it seems to at least on its surface have good argumentation and hence we as Muslims must develop countermeasures. It does not state, however, who made the inscriptions. Now we come to the archeological matters concerning the Nabateans. (LogOut/ They trace their lineage to Abbas, uncle of the Islamic prophet Muhammad. [22], The first wave of Arab immigration to the Maghreb began with the conquest of the Maghreb in the seventh century, with the migration of sedentary and nomadic Arabs to the Maghreb from the Arabian Peninsula. Take your time and let it sink in: 1. [Qur'an . If not, then why do we need to find the remains of Thamud? And they were also well-built because they still exist today. It is not specific to the 2 Arab tribes. Mostafa Badawi, in his book Ancient Prophets of Arabiasays thatthe people ofThamdlived in the 8th century BCE in the al-Hijr region and were destroyed. These Arab tribes have played a role in the demographic changes in the Arab world through the increase of the Arab population,[8] as well as the ethnic, cultural, linguistic, and genetic Arabization of the Levant and North Africa.[9]. Five Syriac inscriptions mentioning Arabs have been found at Sumatar Harabesi, one of which dates to the 2nd century CE. The Prophet ()s custom was always to point out to his Companions the geographical locations and landmarks connected with previous Divine Envoys. Our editors will review what youve submitted and determine whether to revise the article. 2. According to Saudi-archeology website, an academic website aimed at archiving the rock images and providing archeological information on them, the structure may have been used for holding sacred feasts. We have a good perspective of the size of these supposed tombs in this picture, as the faade has been destroyed. Who can bring me down to the ground? But the shriek seized them at early morning. However, as the Christians have proposed an objection to the notion of any other people carving structures in hills and mountains prior to the Nabateans, this leaves the Christians with the following options: (1). 10.can al hijr be somewhere else like al ula And this advancement led to a stratified society of haves and have nots. 11. They are mentioned in the Quran as examples of civilizations that Allah had destroyed because of their sins and as signs of the fleeting nature of the worldly power. Saudi Arabia, in terms of archaeology, is really untouched. Yusuf Ali. Vol. Traditionally, both the prophets Hud and Saleh and by implication, their respective communities Aad andThamud, are thought to have existed generations before Abraham, placing them well before 1300 BC (at the very least1). They didnt bluntly reject Salih like the Aad did to Hud. The Nabataean alphabet was adopted by Arabs to the south, and evolved into modern Arabic script around the 4th century. It describes what they used to do i.e. The Thamud did not worship God, and were disobedient. The first ancient tribe of Thamud should be distinguished from later tribes named Thamud by historians and archaeologists, as well as the region itself, which was known as the land of Thamud and sometimes simply Thamud.. Their responses were a reflection of this culture. And their responses reflected their advancement in knowledge. But the fact that they spitefully killed an animal that had done them no harm and for no good reason is proof and a sign of their evil. Having failed to save his people, Salih warned that they would be destroyed after three days. Look, it doesnt matter if you warn us or dont warn us, were not going to listen to you. Dont ignore them. His people came after Ad, and they were known as Thamud. Ignore the entire thing and continue to spread their deception and lies. It must also be kept in mind that not all of the structures have been found as of yet. Shaitan (Satan) made their deeds fair-seeming to them, and turned them away from the (Right) Path, though they were intelligent. Aad are mentioned as another Arabian tribe destroyed by God for rejecting their Prophet Hud. Or there fallen down relics were better than yours in the past but not better now. Like Petra, much of the ruins are still hidden, we cant make absolute conclusions unless and until we have access to all of the monuments, tombs, structures, which are still hidden. For a few reasons. Then, his progeny, and his people, came to be known by the name of ` Ad. Secondly, the Ayaat are not only meant for the Sahaba, they are also for us and for all times and so when the Quran asks the readers to look at what happened to those before, it is meant for us as well. 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